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Post by Pawel on Jan 21, 2023 22:32:24 GMT
Hey fellow mammals, New artwork has dropped! Or rather is hovering in zero-G.  And it's our first colour look at a Spacer! Behold:  |
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Post by Starmith on Jan 22, 2023 8:24:04 GMT
Cool!
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Post by michaelsd on Jan 23, 2023 12:36:47 GMT
Smashing! I like art which shows me what, or in this case who, something is.
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Post by doublea on Jan 28, 2023 1:43:28 GMT
Gloriously 'alien'! Definitely looks like they would have a problem getting around on actual planetary G like the lore explains. I also love the zero-g dolphin technician there. :>
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Post by lupmet on Jan 28, 2023 15:03:23 GMT
I have a problem with the spacer, and that is that his knees/elbows bends at opposite directions. If he is relaxed, which direction do they bend? I can accept that he can twist the limb but this looks ... wrong. We cannot twist our arms or legs 180°. Or is this supposed to be one of the benefits of being a spacer? How much strength do they have to spare when the limb is this twisted? Sorry, I gout out on a limb here...
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Post by Pawel on Jan 28, 2023 15:17:06 GMT
I have a problem with the spacer, and that is that his knees/elbows bends at opposite directions. If he is relaxed, which direction do they bend? I can accept that he can twist the limb but this looks ... wrong. We cannot twist our arms or legs 180°. Or is this supposed to be one of the benefits of being a spacer? How much strength do they have to spare when the limb is this twisted? Sorry, I gout out on a limb here... Hehehe, I see what you did there!  Oh yeah, no questions asked, a human-looking leg bending forward looks painful to our eyes. But these are genies, frequently described in the books as "four armed" or "double jointed" (by the way, don't google "double jointed" or you might get freaked out by the results as I just got). I think the black & white artwork from 2nd edition might be doing the Spacers a bit of a disservice, as it simply shows an agile dude with dexterous feet + finger-like toes. Judging by the thumb-toes on this new artwork, my interpretation is that the Spacers' knees bend in the opposite direction from that of the gravity dwellers'. So our Spacer here is rotating his left leg to the left in order to grab that flowing cable. |
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Post by doublea on Jan 29, 2023 16:06:28 GMT
Yeah I am pretty sure Pawel is right - in one of my old campaigns one character got one of the cybernetics mods which were 'spacer legs', which I swear I remember as being referred to like 'chicken legs' because they bent the opposite way at the knee when in spacer-mode, but that they could also switch back like normal knees for planetside ambulation. I'll tack a note on when I get a chance to find them in my books. I'm not sure if biomod spacer legs were inverted knee, or fully double-jointed...
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Post by doublea on Jan 30, 2023 22:41:06 GMT
I eventually got around to looking it up, totally double-jointed limbs. The book describes spacers are "effectively four-armed humans" with "prehensile feet with opposable grip" so that makes sense. The cyberware version was just slightly less good than the full spacer mod in zero g but without the whole barely-being-able-to-walk-planetside thing, and they did call them 'bird legs' so I wasn't totally nuts on that one. :>
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Post by Pawel on Jan 30, 2023 22:44:10 GMT
I eventually got around to looking it up, totally double-jointed limbs. The book describes spacers are "effectively four-armed humans" with "prehensile feet with opposable grip" so that makes sense. The cyberware version was just slightly less good than the full spacer mod in zero g but without the whole barely-being-able-to-walk-planetside thing, and they did call them 'bird legs' so I wasn't totally nuts on that one. :> Cybernetic "bird legs" down in gravity well must have been quite a sight for the NPCs. 😄 |
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Post by lupmet on Feb 6, 2023 14:51:44 GMT
I still would like to change the art a bit, it doesn't look "natural" even for bird's legs – and the text needs to be clear on the bending configuration of the limbs. It would make sense if the spacer has turned his left lower limb to grab that pipe. Maybe the thigh should be shorter and the lower leg longer? Or why not go all in with additional set of knees/elbows?
What I don't know if I would like to see is a picture of a spacer scratching themselves under the chin....
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Post by Pawel on Feb 6, 2023 14:53:55 GMT
I still would like to change the art a bit, it doesn't look "natural" even for bird's legs – and the text needs to be clear on the bending configuration of the limbs. It would make sense if the spacer has turned his left lower limb to grab that pipe. Maybe the thigh should be shorter and the lower leg longer? Or why not go all in with additional set of knees/elbows? What I don't know if I would like to see is a picture of a spacer scratching themselves under the chin.... Hehe, they're generally lithe and well stretched, so they can probably twist themselves into quite a pretzel! |
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Post by neil on Feb 10, 2023 10:31:43 GMT
Yes, I could easily imagine that spacer hips have a wider range of internal/external rotation, to make them move in a way more like shoulders. (You could hold your arm to make your elbow point "backwards".)
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And it's our first colour look at a Spacer! Behold:
