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Post by lupmet on Oct 3, 2024 9:05:04 GMT
I think the best way is to make sure there is a community around the game that can introduce newcomers and support everyone, so in no particular order: (snip) No not end on a very negative note, I would like to say that my point is that Biohazard should reach out to 10-15 people that are interested in helping out with this and these should then discuss what to build and how – and then act on those plans. That group need to form and start working before the books arrive, we are in haste… These are great ideas, but... "Biohazard Games" is "Jeff in his very limited spare time". Gallant Knight have several other games to support, and don't provide forums and wikis for any of them. We're not dealing with a WotC-sized company here. I think if we want to see any of these things, it's up to us (the fan community) to create it. As for the ten to fifteen interested people ... we're here. On this board. Let's get cracking! I am quite aware of this 😏 but then it would be nice if Jeff could say "you have my blessing". ☺️ So, which places do exist apart from those already discussed? Any hashtags on Mastodon and other media platforms we should use or follow? What about we set up a massive PBF campagin here? I mean massive as in "a lot of people" instead of "a complex intrigue", going for rules light and the GM(s) should focus on resolving skill checks rather than driving the plot. Everyone have a character and writes what they do and any two characters can interact when they are in the same place. More of a character and player driven story than a dedicated scenario/campaign written by the GM(s). Everyone arrives in a smallish community and then it is up to them to decide on what they will do. (Yes, that is all the idea I had right here, right now. No point in asking for more details or thoughts… 😉) Which websites are there, apart from the Wiki, that is still alive? Regarding the wiki, what should we do about it? Level of ambition and what can go there and what cannot (e.g. copyright)? |
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Post by lupmet on Oct 10, 2024 17:49:42 GMT
No takers on forum play or what other channels exists for all thing Poseidon…? 😏 No opinion on the wiki?
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Post by Pawel on Oct 10, 2024 18:05:51 GMT
No takers on forum play or what other channels exists for all thing Poseidon…? 😏 No opinion on the wiki? Ah, sorry!  My input would be... I'm a 100% face-to-face RPGer, though I very much hope you can find a comfortable online corner to enjoy Blue Planet! Online tools of some variety are to be released as part of the Kickstarter, but yeah, further down the road. I am a little conflicted when it comes to the wiki. It's a handy tool for the actual players / moderators - though they're essentially very shortened versions of the full PDFs with interactive indexes. As in, anything the wiki can give us, the PDFs can give us. So is the target audience mainly the uninitiated / potential new Blue Planeteers (GO PLANET!)? I'm probably overthinking it, but yeah, my understanding of how game publishing and community management works, is non-existent.  |
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Post by neil on Oct 11, 2024 15:44:25 GMT
There's some activity on the "Blighted Asylum" discord for a Europe-time-friendly online game.
As for the wiki: it's mostly an historical artefact. It would be great to have links to current blogs and the like, campaign descriptions, and other fan-created cool stuff. We could have some fan-made supplementary material for official publications, but that's secondary. I think Allie's version of Alderberg is great example of what the wiki could be.
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Post by mrgroknroll on Oct 11, 2024 17:44:43 GMT
I know I kicked this thread off, but that one of those thinking-out-loud moments.
I don't have the energy to do anything asides from talking about the game to people - which I've done a lot over the last two weeks.
And I hope to get a physical social game going.
Plus, if I manage some solo play and it comes out in a sharable shape and form, I might do that as well.
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Post by grodog on Oct 11, 2024 20:17:59 GMT
Can someone please share the links to the wiki and the discord?
Allan.
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Post by Pawel on Oct 11, 2024 20:23:00 GMT
Can someone please share the links to the wiki and the discord? Allan. Hey Allan, if you mean the GKG Discord server, here is the link. And Neil's wiki can be found here. |
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Post by lupmet on Oct 14, 2024 7:27:42 GMT
No takers on forum play or what other channels exists for all thing Poseidon…? 😏 No opinion on the wiki? Ah, sorry! My input would be... I'm a 100% face-to-face RPGer, though I very much hope you can find a comfortable online corner to enjoy Blue Planet! Online tools of some variety are to be released as part of the Kickstarter, but yeah, further down the road. I am a little conflicted when it comes to the wiki. It's a handy tool for the actual players / moderators - though they're essentially very shortened versions of the full PDFs with interactive indexes. As in, anything the wiki can give us, the PDFs can give us. So is the target audience mainly the uninitiated / potential new Blue Planeteers (GO PLANET!)? I'm probably overthinking it, but yeah, my understanding of how game publishing and community management works, is non-existent. If a wiki is needed or not depends 100 % on if the index in the PDF is good enough to find all concepts, and that the PDF index gets updated when omissions are found. It also depends on if a concept is defined in one location or if it is spread over several books and chapters. If I want to read up on say the day cycle, will I find it in one place or in both the Player's Guide and the Moderator's Guide? Will the index cover both or do I need to check all the books to ensure I don't miss something? A wiki can gather all that in once place and then make references to the books for more information. I wouldn't expect a wiki to replace the books, but it would be nice to have it as an updated index and summary – for instance is a Bad Mojo a creature or a vectorjet, if it is a creature is is flying, swimming, or crawling? A wiki would state "A Bad Mojo is a serious threat, a fish analogue, see page N in MG." I can easily search the PDFs, both in the document itself but also the index at the end, but I might need to search through several books and the search function in the PDF viewer might match on the individual words and not on the phrase (I am looking at you, macOS Preview, do not try to hide behind the Dock!). The main benefit with a wiki as I see it, is that players that doesn't have the PDFs or books, or anyone that are out and about when they might check into this forum and want to reference something, can check on the wiki to jog their memory, but also that we have one place to add new gadgets, places, and creatures, like the dedicated forum here. It all boils down to how much how much work we want to spend on this, and the answer so far is "None". (Sorry if I sound pessimistic, but I think everyone should be clear-eyed and remove any rosy sunglasses.) |
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Post by lupmet on Oct 14, 2024 7:30:09 GMT
My point, to make another post, is that if we want any support after publishing, which was the topic of the thread, we need to create it and have critical mass before we can expect anything to take off. It will be quite some work, and it definitely would help if Biohazard would support it in some way or the other.
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Post by Pawel on Oct 14, 2024 7:47:51 GMT
My point, to make another post, is that if we want any support after publishing, which was the topic of the thread, we need to create it and have critical mass before we can expect anything to take off. It will be quite some work, and it definitely would help if Biohazard would support it in some way or the other. I fully agree here, but I think we must keep in mind that BP is a niche gem and that critical mass will very likely be difficult to achieve on all fronts. And Biohazard is essentially one person kind enough to have shared their world with us and successful enough to manage to get its current revision/refresh funded. Once both corebooks are fully done, works will continue on the rest of the stretch goals. The Wormhole and World of Hurt write-ups will be mouthwateringly (I'm sure this is a word) huge - and, incidentally, the two "sourcebooks" I've always felt we were lacking and desperately needed. So yeah, I'm super happy they're coming. I think for many months still, both the creative and budgetary facets of Biohazard's operations will be focused on the present (stretch goals), rather than the future. |
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Post by neil on Oct 14, 2024 10:37:47 GMT
The main benefit with a wiki as I see it, is that players that doesn't have the PDFs or books, or anyone that are out and about when they might check into this forum and want to reference something, can check on the wiki to jog their memory, but also that we have one place to add new gadgets, places, and creatures, like the dedicated forum here. It all boils down to how much how much work we want to spend on this, and the answer so far is "None". (Sorry if I sound pessimistic, but I think everyone should be clear-eyed and remove any rosy sunglasses.) Exactly. The wiki is a repository for fan-created "stuff". That could be things to supplement what's in the official books, such as extended cross-references. It could be new material, such as expansions on people, places, groups that are mentioned in the books but only briefly. It could be source material for people's games of Blue Planet. It's not "blessed" by Jeff, Biohazard, or Gallant Knight; but they all know about it and no-one has asked for anything to be removed. I really don't mind what does up there, so long as it's related to Blue Planet, and not illegal or offensive. If you're in a game, put up some stuff on the wiki and let's at least give the impression this is a thriving community! |
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Post by mrgroknroll on Oct 14, 2024 16:39:10 GMT
In preparing for my first solo game, I've come up with - a new organisation, Mars Intelligence and Counterintelligence Service (MICS),
- a media company called Anat Media based off Mars and publisher of "An Underground Guide to the Solar System",
- a subdivision of Hydrospan called Hydrospan Logistics Solutions,
- an experimental trimaran hydrofoil called Metal Rebel and
- two characters.
If that kind of stuff helps, I'm more than happy to put it on the wiki for anyone else to use, modify, expand. And I'm pretty sure stuff like that will emerge during prep and play.
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Post by mrgroknroll on Oct 14, 2024 16:43:40 GMT
Should errata we find and rule explorations and home brews also be on the wiki?
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Post by neil on Oct 14, 2024 20:14:15 GMT
In preparing for my first solo game, I've come up with - a new organisation, Mars Intelligence and Counterintelligence Service (MICS),
- a media company called Anat Media based off Mars and publisher of "An Underground Guide to the Solar System",
- a subdivision of Hydrospan called Hydrospan Logistics Solutions,
- an experimental trimaran hydrofoil called Metal Rebel and
- two characters.
If that kind of stuff helps, I'm more than happy to put it on the wiki for anyone else to use, modify, expand. And I'm pretty sure stuff like that will emerge during prep and play.
Please do! Drop be a line at neil.bpwiki [at] njae.me.uk and I can set up an account for you. Let me know the username you'd like and an email address to use for password resets and the like. (That offer goes for anyone else here as well.) |
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Post by lupmet on Oct 15, 2024 6:17:41 GMT
In preparing for my first solo game, I've come up with - a new organisation, Mars Intelligence and Counterintelligence Service (MICS),
- a media company called Anat Media based off Mars and publisher of "An Underground Guide to the Solar System",
- a subdivision of Hydrospan called Hydrospan Logistics Solutions,
- an experimental trimaran hydrofoil called Metal Rebel and
- two characters.
If that kind of stuff helps, I'm more than happy to put it on the wiki for anyone else to use, modify, expand. And I'm pretty sure stuff like that will emerge during prep and play.
When we created the wiki once upon the time, I wrote some guidelines on how to add to the wiki (see the last section on the main page), the most important once I think is to add the Category:Contributed to any non-canon pages. There is only one way to make things happening; rock the boat! |
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My input would be... I'm a 100% face-to-face RPGer, though I very much hope you can find a comfortable online corner to enjoy Blue Planet! Online tools of some variety are to be released as part of the Kickstarter, but yeah, further down the road.
